実用的な遊びは国際的な詐欺です (6ページ)

If that's the way it is, I probably wouldn't play on these slots if they don't give you almost any money from the free spins you mentioned. You'll save money and nerves. Probably best if you try some other provider. 🤔

Pragmatic play has scammed me 90$ , I played sugar rush 1000 seeing nice reviews from influencers , but i started playing , it taken my 35$ without any bonuses , to recover it i deposited 50$ again and it taken my 50$ to 25$ , frustrated I played big bass float the boats , it given me bonus reward only 2$ , frustrated again i bought bonus of 20$ in sugar rush 1000 it eaten my 18$ and given only 2$ . I hate pragmatic play so much , it made my life hell

@Jelena_PragmaticPlay

It's a shame you're not taking part in the discussion.

@Jelena_PragmaticPlay

schade das sie sich nicht an der diskussion beteiligen.

How have they scammed you, though? You've done everything wrong. You go into one of their high volatility slots with a minimal bankroll. You re-deposit to chase your losses. You buy 1 single bonus and then you are surprised it doesn't pay. Clearly, you have no understanding how this works. The least you need to do is some proper research. Also, if you don't know by now not to trust a word these "influencers" say, I'm sorry to say but you deserve to lose, and one can only hope you will have learned a lesson.

No other slot eats 85$ total , pragmatic is the worst provider according to my experience and play n go is best , I never ever experienced this kind of shady behaviour in play n go , but pragmatic always robs me.

You are right i deserve to lose ... because I'm gambling addicted 😥 and always losing so much money in chasing losses

I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you recover, friend. The first thing you need to do is to see if you can download anything or find something in your computer settings that blocks everything with "casino" etc. in its name. Then you must find someone professional or a group you can talk to about your problems and take it from there. All best wishes to you 🤞

Hey there.

Sorry for starting off a bit off-topic, but I just want to add a little hint here.

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If I add my humble opinion, though, this whole thread is already meant directly against Pragmatic, so I think I would leave you to yourselves if I were Jelena anyway. It feels more natural than confrontation, at least to me.

I'm sorry you had such an experience and lost. However, playing in casinos is always connected with it and they have an advantage over the player who eventually loses his money there. 

I think if you didn't do well, the best thing to do would be to either take a break, stop playing, or maybe try another game provider. 

I'm not sure what else I would advise you to do. 😕

If it's like you say and you have a gambling problem, I have a guide on responsible gambling where you can find a lot of useful information if you need it. Have a look at it and I hope it will help you. There's a lot of practical stuff in there. 

Also, the best thing to do would be to seek professional help, because I can imagine it is very unpleasant when you have to fight it.

However, I firmly believe that you will succeed and win over it. 🙁

thank you Radka

I don't want a confrontation, it would be a chance for pragmatic to present their situation. I have hundreds of screenshots that support my point. but we are only there to make deposits and nothing else.

danke Radka

ich will keine konfrontation, es wäre für pragmatic eine chance ihre sachlage darzustellen. ich habe hunderte screenshots die meinen standpunkt untermauern. aber wir sind nur zum einzahlen da und für nichts anderes.

A real confrontation is appropriate in such cases, I would say, but of course I leave your opinion to you. You would also learn things from the other side's perspective.

However, if you feel that you are only making deposits with this provider, the best thing to do is to move to another one or don't play. 🙂

I never play seriously on the "pragmtic play" provider, I never take this provider seriously. I might play some leftover money after a withdrawal because I know there's no chance I'll win, the odds are below 10%. The chance to see a win from there is simply to tempt me and then lose ten times the amount of the win. The provider does not refund the stakes, so do not play more than 5% of your deposits on it. Whenever I play in "pracmaticplay" I enjoy it because the negative opinion I have about them is verified.

349 spins without bonus round. Big Bass Extreme (no deposit bonus money).

Yyyyy... 🤔🤔🤔

Are there any further doubts? Despite this, my personal record is 540 spins without bonus round on Big Bass Bonanza (classic).

For some time now, I have only been playing with this provider with all its free promotions, just to prove myself to the world. that pragmatic play deserves condemnation.

My friend that's the way things are... you don't have to prove anything to the world, the provider who has these games makes sure to expose their zero rtp. The truth is that the games of "pragmaticplay" are very addictive, they have an excellent environment, very good graphics and create a fairy-tale addictive atmosphere, as good as these are, so poisonous is the profit return.

I have been playing with your provider in hundreds of your slots for about 4 years in 10 different casinos, in the last 2 years it is not possible to knock out at least x1000, 90% of the bonus games give x1-x10, in total, I spent about 300,000 euros on your provider’s games, the percentage of return does not reach even 5%, I did not receive any response to all the letters I sent on your company's website, when I asked for an e-mail box where I can file a complaint, your employees are silent, and I was completely blocked by your company's Instagram account after an e-mail request, these are the habits of fraudsters and not an honest company! In total, I saved about 250,000 different screenshots as an indicator of the return of your company, in the near future I am going to go to court and return the lost funds, because I see that this is all fraud if a person cannot return even 50-70% of the deposited money for such a long period of time funds during active play when billions of spins are made in various slots.

Граю у ваш провайдер у сотні ваших слотів близько 4 років на 10 різноманітних казино, останні 2 роки вибити принаймі х1000 не є можливим, 90% бонусних ігор дають х1-х10, в загальному витрачено на ігри вашого провайдера близько 300 000 євро відсоток віддачі не сягає навіть 5%, на всі листи які я надсилав на сайті вашої компанії не отримав жодної відповіді, на запит електронної скриньки куди можна звернутися зі скаргою ваші працівники мовчать, а в інстаграм аккаунт вашої компанії мене взагалі заблокував після запиту електронної пошти, це повадки шахраїв а не чесної компанії! В загальному мною збережено близько 250 тисяч різноманітних скриншотів як показник віддачі вашої компанії, найближчим часом я збираюсь звернутися до суду і повернути втрачені кошти, бо я бачу що це все шахрайство якщо людина за такий великий проміжок часу не може повернути і 50-70% внесених коштів при активній грі коли зроблено міліарди обертів у різноманітних слотах.

In my opinion, this company simply sells the layouts of its slots to various casinos, and they in turn can adjust the return as they like, there is no 96% for the average player, and for streamers, the casino can set the return at the level of 1000%

На мою думку ця компанія просто продає макети своїх слотів різним казино, а ті в свою чергу можуть регулювати віддачу як їм заманеться, немає ніякої 96% для звичайного гравця а для стрімерам казино може виставити віддачу на рівні 1000%

I admire you for giving 250,000 screenshots. It is no coincidence that JELENA has disappeared and does not respond after so many posts here, you see our reports are stormy. I am waiting to learn the judicial development of the case. The rtp of "pragmaticplay" is based on the interest of those who host it.

There is nothing surprising in the fact that it has disappeared, fraudsters usually behave like this, look how interesting it turns out, they are ready to pay millions of dollars for advertising from various streamers, but they are not ready to set up a return worthy of customer deposits.

Нічого дивного в цьому не має що вона зникла, зазвичай шахраї так себе і ведуть, дивись як цікаво получається вони готові платити мільйони доларів за рекламу у різноманітних стрімерів а налаштувати віддачу гідну депозитам клієнтів не готові.

I took part in the free tournament today. In 500 spins, not even 3 scatters.

No matter which slot you play from Pragmatic Play, there is no fun factor anymore. It's really sad what Pragmatic Play is doing to us.

habe heute beim gratisturnier mitgemacht. bei 500 spins nicht einmal 3 scatter.

ganz egal welchen slot man von pragmaticplay spielt, da gibt es keinen spaßfaktor mehr. echt traurig was pragmaticplay mit uns macht.