The player from Argentina was struggling with increasing withdrawal requirements at CBet. Despite having turned an 8000 ARS deposit into 48000 ARS, the amount needed for withdrawal had increased due to the casino's turnover rules. The player found communication and assistance from the casino's support to be lacking. Despite our team's efforts to contact the casino and mediate the issue, the casino did not respond. Therefore, we marked the complaint as 'unresolved', which could have negatively affected the casino's rating. We advised the player to file a complaint with the gaming authority that regulates the casino - Gaming Curacao.
アルゼンチン出身のプレーヤーは、CBet での出金要件の増加に苦労していました。 8,000 ARS の入金を 48,000 ARS に変えたにもかかわらず、カジノの売上ルールにより、出金に必要な金額が増加していました。プレーヤーは、カジノのサポートからのコミュニケーションと支援が不足していると感じました。私たちのチームはカジノに連絡して問題を調停しようと努めましたが、カジノは応答しませんでした。したがって、カジノの評価に悪影響を与える可能性がある苦情を「未解決」としてマークしました。私たちはプレーヤーに対し、カジノを規制するゲーミング当局であるゲーミング キュラソーに苦情を提出するようアドバイスしました。
こんにちは、CBet の売上高に問題があります。私は最初に娯楽のために 8000 ARS をデポジットし、普段はルーレットでプレイしています。 8000 ARS を 24000 ARS に変えることができたとき、システムがどのように機能するかを確認するために引き出してみました。出金するにはまだ約 17000 ARS が足りないことに気づきました。ルーレットをプレイし続け、オールインした後の合計は 24000 ARS から 48000 ARS になりました。出金に必要な金額は17000ARSから約54000ARSに増加しました。サポートに連絡して金額が増加した理由を尋ねたところ、売上ルールによるものだと言われました。ルールを読んだところ、リスクに関係なく、 X回プレイすると金額が減少することが示されていました。
Hello, I'm having issues with the turnover at CBet. I initially made a deposit of 8000 ARS for entertainment and usually play on roulette. When I was able to turn those 8000 ARS into 24000 ARS, I tried to withdraw it to see how the system works. I noticed that I was still short of about 17000 ARS to make the withdrawal. I continued playing roulette, and my total went from 24000 ARS to 48000 ARS after going all-in. The amount needed for withdrawal increased from 17000 ARS to approximately 54000 ARS. I contacted support to ask why the amount had increased and they told me it was due to their turnover rules. After reading the rules, they indicated that the amount would decrease if I played X number of times, regardless of the risk.
I then decided to risk it all to lower the total (bad luck if I lost) and the turnover increased more than double what I won (around 200000 ARS).
I have attached screenshots showing the turnover increasing.
I also include a video of my 150k ARS all-in, where the turnover was at 273k ARS, and after winning, went up to 723k ARS.
I have been in contact with support and after some effort, I was able to get a ticket issued. They say I will get a response within 72 business hours. However, I never received any email confirming the creation of the ticket. Moreover, I can't access the technical support chat, which is supposedly available 24/7.
I would also like to mention that my initial deposit was 8000 ARS without the use of any bonus. Therefore, I don't understand why the turnover keeps increasing when I use roulette.
I'm attaching a screenshot of the only deposit I made.
Lastly, I would attach the conversation I had with technical support but I can't access it as it's disabled in my case.
I hope this complaint can at least resolve my problem or helped others be aware of CBet's unfair practices. Many others have fallen into this "scam" of turnover requirements.
I'm including a screenshot of some individuals complaining on the CBet chat about not being able to withdraw their funds due to the same issue.
Looking forward to your response,
Buenas, tengo problemas con el turnover de CBet, inicialmente hice un deposito de 8000 ARS para entretenerme y normalmente suelo jugar en la ruleta y cuando pude convertir esos 8000 ARS en 24000 ARS intente retirarlo para ver como era el sistema y me di cuenta que me faltaba unos 17000 ARS para poder hacer el retiro lo cual segui jugando en la ruleta y paso de 24000 ARS a 48000 ARS haciendo all-in y ese monto para retirar paso de 17000 ARS a 54000 ARS aproximadamente, contacte con el soporte para preguntar el motivo por el cual el monto habia aumentado y me dijieron que era debido al turnover y me mandaron las regla del turnover lo cual leyendolo explicaba que el monto iba a bajar si jugaba X cantidad de veces independientemente del riesgo, a lo cual decidi hacer un all-in para bajarlo (si perdia bueno, mala suerte) y el turnover subio mas del doble de lo que gane (mas o menos 200000 ARS)
Adjunto capturas del turnover aumentando
Adjunto video del all-in de 150k ARS en donde el turnover era 273k ARS y dsp de ganar paso a 723k ARS
La conversacion que tuve con el soporte a duras penas pude lograr que me hicieran un ticket en donde tendre respuestas dentro de 72 horas habiles, en el cual nunca me llego ningun mail de que el ticket se creo y segundo no puedo acceder al chat del soporte tecnico (supuestamente 24/7)
Cabe recalcar que mi deposito inicial de fue 8000 ARS sin ninguna utilizacion de bono asi que no entiendo porque el turnover es cada vez mas alto cuando uso la ruleta.
Adjunto imagen del unico deposito que he hecho
Por ultimo, adjuntaria la conversacion que tuve con el soporte tecnico pero no puedo acceder a el ya que en mi caso se encuenta deshabilitado.
Espero que esta queja pueda al menos resolver mi problema o dar a conocer que Cbet tiene una politca muy estafadora y hay muchos otros que han caido en esta "estafa" de turnover.
Adjunto imagen de algunos quejandose en el chat de Cbet por la misma situacion de no poder retirar sus fondos.
I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Regrettably, we've encountered numerous comparable complaints over the past few days. We remain optimistic that the casino will promptly attend to this matter, though, at present, it appears they have chosen to adopt a No Reaction Policy.
Unfortunately, the videos can't be uploaded directly in the complaint thread, kindly send me the video to my email at tomas@casino.guru
Could you please clarify how much money you wagered so far?
Have you tried wagering your funds in games other than roulette on the website? With what result?
-私はスロットでプレイし、それをきっかけにページでプレイするようになり、現在まで合計で 150,000 ARS 以上、あるいはそれ以上の利益をスロットから得ています。スロットの売上高は下がりますが、そうなるのは私にとって公平ではないように思えます。初期残高のときに持っている 751000 ARS の売上高を下げるために、賞金のほとんどすべてをスロット (興味のないゲーム) に費やさなければなりません。は 8000 ARS です。どのライブベッティング サービスでも、負けた場合は売上高が下がるだけですが、勝てば利益が 5 倍以上に増加します。これはクレイジーです (ルーレットに限らず、plinko を含むどのサービスでも)。スロットでプレイした賞金のスクリーンショットを添付します (出金に必要な金額の数倍をすでに獲得していることがわかります)
説明: 現在の残高 0.03 ARS は、ARS を USDT に変換したためです。
-E-mail sent.
-The amount of money bet so far exceeds 300,000 ARS (including slots and roulette), being 38 times more than the initial deposit, the problem is that the bot considers roulette a scam and that is why the turnover increases. In addition, there is a rule that asks me that if it is playing roulette I have to bet 3 times more than what I deposited (that is, from 8000ARS to 24000 ARS) but I already bet 38 times what I deposited (as mentioned above) I attach an image of the rule.
-I have played in the slots, with that I started playing on the page and in total until now I have made a total of more than 150,000 ARS or even more in profit from slots. In slots the turnover amounts go down but it does not seem fair to me that it has I have to spend almost all my winnings on slots (games that do not interest me) to lower the turnover of 751000 ARS that I have when the initial balance is 8000 ARS, in any live betting service the turnover only goes down if I lose but if I win it increases more than 5 times the profit, it's crazy (not only roulette, but any of the services, including plinko). Attached is a screenshot of my winnings playing slots (you can see how I already won several times the amount needed to withdraw)
Clarification: my current balance of 0.03 ARS is because I converted my ARS to USDT
-Email enviado.
-la cantidad de dinero apostado hasta ahora supera los 300000 ARS (incluyendo slots y ruletas) siendo 38 veces más del deposito inicio, el problema es que el bot considera a la ruleta como estafa y es por ello que aumenta el turnover.Ademas hay una regla que me pide que si es jugando a la ruleta tengo que apostar 3 veces mas de lo que deposite (osea de 8000ARS a 24000 ARS) pero ya aposte 38 veces lo que deposite (como antes mencionado) adjunto imagen de la regla.
-He jugado en los slots, con eso inicie jugando a la pagina y en total hasta ahora habre hecho un total de mas de 150000 ARS o incluso mas en ganancia de slots.En slots los montos del turnover bajan pero no me parece justo que tenga que gastar casi todas mis ganancias en slots (juegos que no me interesan) para bajar el turnover de 751000 ARS que tengo cuando el saldo inicial es de 8000 ARS, en cualquier servicio en vivo de apuestas el turnover solo baja si pierdo pero si gano aumenta más de 5 veces la ganancia, es una locura (no solo ruleta, sino cualquiera de los servicios, incluido el plinko).Adjunto screenshot de mis ganancias jugando slots (se puede ver como ya gane varias veces mas el monto necesitado para retirar)
Aclaracion: mi balance actual de 0.03 ARS es porque pase mi ARS a USDT
夏織さん、必要な情報を提供していただきありがとうございました。あなたの苦情を同僚の Stefan ( stefan.m@casino.guru ) に転送し、対応させていただきます。ただし、あらゆる種類の問題を調停しようとする私たちを完全に無視するのが CBet カジノの常套手段のようであることを警告したいと思います。 「無反応ポリシー」とマークされた多くの未解決の苦情にもかかわらず、私たちは努力を続けます。
Thank you very much, Natsuori, for providing the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Stefan (stefan.m@casino.guru) who will be at your service. However, I would like to warn you that it seems to be a common practice of CBet Casino to ignore us completely in our attempts to mediate any kind of issue. Regardless of many unresolved complaints marked "No Reaction Policy", we keep on trying.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
I have tried to contact the casino repeatedly but had no success. I am afraid, there is not much that can be done without cooperation from the casino's side. I will mark the complaint "unresolved" in our system. I understand this is not a satisfactory solution to your issue. However, the decrease in rating caused by unresolved complaints could help to change the casino's approach. If the casino decides to react, we will reopen the complaint and you will be notified by email.
There is one more possible way how you can try to get your winnings back - to file a complaint with the gaming authority that regulates the casino - Gaming Curacao. It is possible to file a complaint via the official website (http://www.gaming-curacao.com/) using a "Contact" button or by sending your complaint to info@gaming-curacao.com. Before submitting the complaint, make sure you provide all the necessary information: your personal data, the casino details, your login details in the casino, the issue description, and supporting attachments if it is needed.
If there is any progress with your issue or you need help, please let me know at stefan.m@casino.guru.
I sincerely hope you will not come across a problem like this again.