Everbet Casino - プレイヤーはアカウントの閉鎖やギャンブル依存症の問題に直面しています。

Hello, I registered to this website, and I've been struggling with gambling addiction during this month. I deposited 30 BGN at first, and when I lost it, I realized that I will lose control and continue on losing until I have nothing left. I immediately contacted the live chat requesting permanent self-exclusion, or at least a deposit limit to be placed on my account, however, the staff redirected me to a long document that would be sent to me via email after the chat, and I would need to fill out. They also mentioned that I would need to do full account verification, which is also a very long process. I begged them to stop me from depositing for the time being but they did absolutely nothing to assist me, even though they surely have the tools to do it. As a result, while looking into the document, I snapped, and started depositing and losing more than I could afford, my losses came to a total of 110 BGN. I have never been to another casino operating under the Bulgarian license, that disrupts players from closing their accounts as much, and also wants full account verification for it. Usually every other website I've been to provides the option to instantly close an account. I do not think that this is fair and complies with the regulations and laws that are in place for user safety. What is even more dangerous about the website is that even after the document is submitted and account is fully verified, they may take up to 7 days to finalize the closure, while within this period the user is allowed to play and lose everything that they've got.

Dear bliped,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about the difficulties you’ve encountered in attempting to self-exclude from this website, especially during a time when you felt at risk due to gambling addiction. I understand how concerning this situation is for you, and I’ll do my best to assist.

To better understand and address your case, could you please provide a few additional details?

• Could you confirm if your account has already been closed by the casino, or if you’re still awaiting closure?
• Did the casino provide a specific reason for requiring full account verification before enabling self-exclusion or deposit limits?
• Could you let us know the exact timeline of events, such as when you initially contacted live chat to request self-exclusion and when you submitted the document they required?

If you have any relevant communications with the casino, such as emails outlining their response to your self-exclusion request or details on the verification process, please feel free to forward them to petronela.k@casino.guru.

Your cooperation is crucial for us to proceed with this case. Without further details from you, it would be challenging to address your concerns effectively and explore options to resolve the issue.

I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible.

Thank you in advance for your reply.

Best regards,

Petronela

Hello Petronela, thank you for taking a look at this case intending to assist me, and the many other subsequent victims that may be in danger due to this in the future.

To address the first question, unfortunately, the casino has still not closed by account. They would only do that if I provide the relevant documentation and fully verify my account. What is even worse is that I received multiple bonuses (50 free spins and 5% cashback), which of course might be automatic, prompting me to want to deposit more.

As for you second question, their reasoning was that I agreed with their T&C, which outline that the casino remains in their right to request documentation in some cases. This of course, is a very generic term, which would usually imply that they would need those things for withdrawals, or deposits suspected for fraud. I cannot find the exact term, as they did not send me the logs of this chat, however, I have sent the logs of the first communication to you via email.

As for timings, I created my account at 16:11 BG time, then proceeded to make a deposit of 30 BGN at 16:13:25, had my first chat with them requesting the self-exclusion at 16:39:06, it ended at 16:47:44, and then at 16:51 I started making more deposits until 17:51. With my first deposit of 30 BGN, I reached a balance of 850 BGN and then proceeded to lose it all (because of chasing losses from other casinoes), which shows the extent of my addiction, with that, I was finally sure that I have problems, and instantly contacted live chat for support.

All things considered, the casino has no respect for their customers, and does not offer the assistance they may need.

Thank you very much, bliped, for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Michal (michal.v@casino.guru) who will be at your assistance. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.  

Hello bliped,

My name is Michal and I will be assisting you with your case. I hope that together we will come to a successful resolution of your issue.

I would like to request the presence of a representative from the casino in this conversation.

Dear Everbet Casino,

Could you possibly provide additional information regarding the issue and clarify the situation? I would also appreciate it if you provided us with any and all relevant evidence.  

Thank you in advance.

Respectfully,

Michal

We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.

Dear bliped,

I got in touch with a casino representative outside of this thread, and the discussion is still ongoing. I will let you know with any and all updates. Your patience is greatly appreciated.

Dear bliped,

Can you tell me what the situation is with your account now? Did you fill out the requested form and send your documents for KYC verification?

If you do not complete the KYC procedure, the casino will not have your information in their database for future reference, and there will be nothing stopping you from creating a new account in the future. Providing your documents while self-excluding acts as a protective measure for yourself, and I would strongly advise you to complete it.

The casino definitely should restrict some of your account functions as soon as reasonably possible, like depositing or playing, but full closure is not required if you do not follow the casino's self-exclusion procedure. I assure you, it is an industry standard to ask for KYC documents for the account closure as it serves as another layer of protection for players suffering from gambling addiction. You have to understand that the casino also needs to be sure that the person who is asking for self-exclusion is the true owner of the account, and they can not know this without you providing them with the necessary documents. The fact that you are refusing to cooperate is only prolonging the whole process.

Protection? They do not care about protection, I can go inside right now at this very moment and lose all my money even after the self-harm messages I have sent them, if it was someone with even bigger problems, they might as well be dead by now. They do not value and care for their customer's financial safety or physical and mental wellbeing. The only reason why the process is so lengthy and complicated is to squeeze out every last penny of the people they have manipulated to play on their platform. I do not have the time nor the nerves to complete this stupid process, and I can assure you that it is nonexistent for a website to request documents for account closure, and I do not see how it is legal, as other websites prevent future registration just as well (for example the top casinos like Tsars, and numerous other bulgarian ones that I have forgotten now as they have closed my account without any problems). Nowhere in the Terms and Conditions it is explicitly mentioned that these things are required, and if you ask me, on the review forums of their website it should also be stated that they have a dangerous exclusion process, if the process is solely for future protection, why don't they at least offer regular closure? Also, I do not understand why it is only us two talking in this thread, where are the casino representatives who so deeply value protection for their customers? Honestly, this is going nowhere, I will find other means to protect myself without giving my data to this blackmarket casino. Thank you for taking their side, even though it is apparent that they are as corrupted as can be.

Nowhere in my previous replies did I mention that I am taking the casino's side. The casino's lack of implementation of the requested protective measures is definitely the bigger part of the issue, and it's being dealt with as we speak. I have also asked the representative to join our discussion here in the thread.

But the other part of the issue is you refusing to cooperate and to complete the requested procedures. Both involved parties need to make an effort to resolve this successfully. I understand your point of view, and yes, you are right, there are other casinos that do not require KYC documents for the self-exclusion process. However, what happens is, that a self-excluded player can easily create another account with different personal information, and since there is no KYC procedure at the said casino, there is really no way for the casino to restrict that player from playing.

With all of the above being said, I have expressed dissatisfaction about how the casino handled this process, and I am hopeful that they will join us here in the thread.