Mr Bet Casino - プレイヤーは全体的なカジノ体験について不平を言っています。

Greetings,

Unfortunately I have to report that this page its "Terms and Conditions" are unethical and designed to make sure you lose your money if you have a gambling problem.

1st. They offer me a promotion so I make a deposit and I never get the promotion. I contacted the live chat and they say they cannot help me. so I decided to withdraw the deposit. At that moment I realized that I had been debited 10%. so I did not care, I just wanted to withdraw the rest losing 10%.

2nd. When I withdraw, I do not pay it and the total balance continues to appear. They inform me that it is due to a verification process and that I must wait 24 to 48 hours.

3rd. What surprised me the most is that the money I tried to withdraw is supposedly not available to withdraw BUT TO PLAY. people who have real problems would play them.

4th. I don't understand what kind of verification they should do if the funds were sent to the skrill account from which the deposit was made. So clearly it is a strategy for people to spend the money in that time.

This situation seems unethical to me, I do not recommend using these types of web pages, where they are actually looking for ways to keep your money

Saludos,

Lastimosamente tengo que denunciar que está página sus "Términos y condiciones" carecen de Ética y están diseñadas para asegurarse de que pierdas tu dinero si tienes un problema con las apuestas.

1ro. me ofrecen una promoción por lo que hago un deposito y nunca me llego la promoción. Me comuniqué con el chat en vivo y me dicen que no pueden ayudarme. por lo que decidí retirar el deposito. En ese momento me di cuenta que me habían debitado 10%. por lo que no me importó solo quería retirar el resto perdiendo el 10%.

2do. al hacer el retiro me doy no me hace efectivo y me sigue apareciendo el saldo total. me informan que es debido a un proceso de verificación y que debo esperar 24 a 48 horas.

3ro. lo que más me sorprendió es que el dinero que trate de retirar supuestamente no esta disponible para retirar PERO SI PARA JUGAR. personas que tienen problemas de verdad los jugarían.

4to. No entiendo qué tipo de verificación deben hacer si los fondos fueron enviados a la cuenta skrill de donde se hizo el deposito. Por lo que claramente es una estrategia para que la gente gaste el dinero en ese tiempo.

Esta situación me parece anti-ético, no les recomiendo usar este tipo de páginas web, donde en realidad buscan maneras de quedarse con tu dinero

Dear peladeins,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Unfortunately, I’m not able to assist you with this case based on the current description of events. Could you please elaborate? Resolving which problem would be the priority for you?

If you have more information that would help our case, please forward it to me. My email address is petronela.k@casino.guru.

Unfortunately, at this time, if we don’t have any evidence proving that something unfair is going on, there is nothing we can do. Please do not hesitate to contact me if there is anything else, I could do for you regarding your complaint.

Best regards,

Petronela

Dear Petronela,

First of all a cordial greeting and thank you for your prompt response.

The purpose of my claim may not have been clear.

I am questioning THE ETHICS of MR's "TERMS AND CONDITIONS". BET, due to how they proceed in withdrawing money from the account, delaying withdrawals and keeping available to play.

I explain the reasons for my claim.

The withdrawal is not immediate and it can take up to 48 hours to validate it, which is justified to be able to validate that the money reaches the correct person.

But I have questions that justify my claim.

to. Why validate a withdrawal from Mr. Bet if it was sent to the same skrill account from which the deposit was made?

b. Why is the money still available to play after making a withdrawal and is not in holding?

c. If they want to make sure that the withdrawal of the money arrives in person. Shouldn't they first make sure that the money used in gambling is from the right person? being so.

d. Should they carry out the verification process before receiving the money and only when do you want to withdraw it?

You can review the screenshots sent to check what I'm explaining, even in the chat screenshot you can see how MR's advisor. BET confirms that the money is available to play and that if I use it while the withdrawal process is being carried out, it will be void.

These are sufficient justifications to question the Ethics of the company Mr. Bet and how they hide behind

"Terms and conditions" that I do not understand how they were approved, there should be an investigation.

Sincerely,

P

Estimada Petronela,

Primeramente un cordial saludo y gracias por su pronto respuesta.

El objetivo de mi reclamo tal vez no fue claro.

Yo estoy cuestionando LA ÉTICA de los "TERMINOS Y CONDICIONES" de MR. BET, debido a como proceden en el retiro de dinero de la cuenta, demorando los retiros y manteniendo disponible para jugar.

Explico los motivos de mi reclamo.

El retiro no es inmediato y puede tomar hasta 48 horas validarlo, lo cual es justificado para poder validar que el dinero llegue a la persona correcta.

Pero tengo preguntas que justifican mi reclamo.

a. Por que validar un retiro de Mr. Bet si fu´e enviado a la misma cuenta skrill de donde se realizo el deposito?.

b. Por que el dinero sigue disponible para jugar después de realizar un retiro y no esta en holding?

c. Si ellos quieren asegurarse que el retiro del dinero llegue persona. No deberían asegurarse primero que el dinero que se usa en para jugar sea de la persona correcta? siendo así.

d. Deberían realizar el proceso de verificación antes de recibir el dinero y solo cuando lo quieres retirar?

Puedes revisar las capturas enviadas para comprobar los que estoy explicando, incluso en la captura del chat puedes ver como el asesor de MR. BET confirma que el dinero está disponible para jugar y que si lo uso mientras se realiza el proceso de retiro el mismo quedaría anulado.

Estos son justificativos suficientes para poner en duda la Ética de la empresa Mr. Bet y como se escudan en los

"Términos y condiciones" que no entiendo como fueron aprobados, debería haber una investigación.

Atentamente,

P

Thank you, peladeins, for your reply. Please understand that technically it is very difficult to check who’s the owner of the payment method at the depositing stage. This can be checked only during the account verification, which is usually done when a withdrawal is requested. Therefore, it is a player’s responsibility to use allowed payment methods only.

Therefore, KYC is a very important and essential process, during which the casino makes sure that the money is sent to the rightful owner. As they don't have the luxury of being able to physically see all of the players and check their identification and documents, this is the only way gambling establishments are able to complete the verification procedures. None of the serious and licensed casinos takes KYC lightly and it might take a few working days to complete this thorough process. 

Please let us know if this explanation was satisfactory. Looking forward to hearing from you.

Dear Petronela,

I totally agree with you that it is important to verify the identity of the players, but that has nothing to do with my complaint.

Mr. Bet's problem is not the verification process. Is that they even made a deposit request they keep the money available to play.

In addition, the withdrawal of the money was made from the same skrill account as the one it was deposited, so it should not need any additional verification.

If it is the case of requiring an identity verification, the money, as in any transaction, should remain in "holding", since the reason for the verification in the first place is to make sure that the money reaches the indicated person. So it is counterproductive that they do not want to allow a person who does not belong to the account to withdraw the money, but they do allow him to play it.

It is clear that Mr. Bet, performs the "Verification" process leaving the balance available to play because they are interested in people ending up playing withdrawals before being approved. Those that clearly reflect the type of company.

Greetings

P

Estimada Petronela,

Estoy totalmente de acuerdo contigo en que es importante verificar la identidad de los jugadores, pero eso no tiene nada que ver con mi queja.

El problema del Mr. Bet, no es el proceso de verificación. Es que ellos pesé a realizar una solicitud de deposito ellos mantienen el dinero disponible para jugar.

Además el retiro del dinero fue realizado desde la misma cuenta de skrill de la de se depositó por lo que no debería necesitar ningún tipo de verificación adicional.

De ser el caso de requerir una verificación de identidad el dinero como en cualquier transacción debería permanecer en "holding", ya que el motivo de la verificación en primer lugar es asegurarse que el dinero llega a la persona indicada. Por lo que es contraproducente que no quieren permitir que una persona que no pertenezca la cuenta retire el dinero, pero si permiten que lo juegue.

Está claro que Mr. Bet, realiza el proceso de "Verificación" dejando el saldo disponible para jugar por que les interesa que las personas terminen jugando los retiros antes de ser aprobados. Los que refleja claramente el tipo de empresa.

Saludos

P

We can agree that deducting the requested withdrawal from active balance would be ideal unfortunately, it is not standard practice in every casino. Meanwhile, please understand it is not in our power to change it or to punish the casino for this.

How would you like to proceed?

Dear peladeins,

We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, do not hesitate to contact us if you need any assistance or help, otherwise, we will reject your complaint.

Unfortunately, after gathering all the necessary information we are rejecting this complaint as unjustified. Sorry, we were not able to help you with this one, but please, do not hesitate to contact us in the future, if you run into any issues with this or any other casino. We are here to help.