Vegaz Casino - プレーヤーのボーナス賞金は無効になりました。

I deposited €50 and used the Saturday Booster and won €1400.

I had a balance of €0.00 before my deposit and I'm being accused of not being eligible for the bonus and not having met the criteria from my previous bonus.

Ich habe 50€ eingezahlt und den Saturday Booster benutzt und 1400€ gewonnen.

Ich hatte vor meiner Einzahlung eine Balance von 0.00€ und mir wird vorgeworfen nicht berechtigt für den Bonus gewesen zu sein und ich die Kriterien von meinem vorherigen bonus nicht erfüllt hätte.

Dear mete121212,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint and forwarding the relevant communication:

I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely. Could you please advise if you redeemed this specific bonus in the past? When was the last time you placed a real money deposit, please?

I have checked the Saturday Booster terms and conditions, and this is what I found (here):

Only in the general bonus terms is mentioned that Saturday Booster requires a prior real money deposit during the previous week (here):

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4.6 To ensure proper use of bonuses and fair play, VegazCasino.com considers claiming Saturday Booster bonus without any other clean deposit (i.e. deposit which is not matched with any bonus) during the week as irregular gameplay to take advantage of bonuses. Players must deposit at least 150€ during the week in order to be eligible for winnings generated with Saturday Booster Bonuses if they later decide to play slot games with mentioned deposit and 300€ in case of table games play. In case of irregular play mentioned above, winnings generated with Saturday Booster will be forfeited and deposit returned."

I would like to emphasize that if players are not eligible for a specific bonus, it shouldn't be available to them at all. Please check our article about Restricted Bonuses:

"Casinos should only give bonuses to players who are allowed to get them according to the Bonus T&Cs. And if the casino makes the mistake of granting a bonus to a player who shouldn't have received it, the casino shouldn't take it away from them. Instead, the casino should accept that it was their mistake and pay out the winnings to the player."

Looking forward to hearing from you. Thank you in advance.

Best regards,

Petronela

I'll send you my bonus history and payment history.

I regularly deposit at Fortunepanda and Betroom24. I keep getting this deposit bonus every Saturday and it shows it at the cashier

Ich sende dir mal mein Bonusverlauf und Zahlungsverlauf.

Ich zahle regelmäßig bei Fortunepanda und Betroom24 ein. Ich bekomme ständig jeden Samstag diesen Einzahlungsbonus und bekomme ihn an der Kasse angezeigt

Thank you very much, mete121212, for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Peter (peter.m@casino.guru) who will be at your assistance. I wish you best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.  

Hi mete121212,

I have looked at your case and understand the situation. Let me contact the casino and I will do my best to help. I would like to invite Vegaz Casino to the conversation to participate in the resolution of this complaint.

Hello,

thank you for your comments.

Please note that in order to create an account on Vegaz Casino, you must accept that you have read and comprehended the Terms & Conditions. It is the full duty of the player to read the Terms and Conditions before creating an account and, more importantly, before making a deposit.

Our Bonus T&C, clause 4.6, states that "To ensure proper use of bonuses and fair play, VegazCasino.com considers claiming Saturday Booster bonus without any other clean deposit (i.e. deposit which is not matched with any bonus) during the week as irregular gameplay to take advantage of bonuses. Players must deposit at least 150€ during the week in order to be eligible for winnings generated with Saturday Booster Bonuses if they later decide to play slot games with mentioned deposit and 300€ in case of table games play. In case of irregular play mentioned above, winnings generated with Saturday Booster will be forfeited and deposit returned."

This implies that in order to be eligible for the Saturday Booster bonus, players must deposit at least 150€ during the week.

All decisions made by the casino are in compliance with the Terms and Conditions that players accept upon registration.

Best regards,

Anton

Dear Anton and Vegaz Casino,

Thank you for your reply. Let me ask you a question. Why do you let players take bonuses that they are not eligible for? Especially, if it's a deposit bonus. Is there at least any warning that the player didn't make enough clean deposits during the week? Don't you think such an important condition should be stated in the specific terms and practically all over the bonus not just in the general Bonus T&Cs? This way, the bonus makes an impression of a trap for players.

We would like to ask the Casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.

Hi Peter,

thank you for the response and sorry for the late reply.

Please know that we can't implement an option like that in the back-office. Hence the reason why all our decisions are based on the Terms & Conditions set by the casino. 

We feel that the T&Cs of the casino are concise enough and this particular rule is specific to this bonus, thus being under Terms & Conditions - 4. Saturday Booster. On every bonus/promotion page, players have the option of being redirected to the T&C. 

Please find attached the link to our Bonus T&C where you can find that this rule is listed specifically under the Terms of the Saturday Booster promotion. (https://www.vegazcasino.com/en/info/bonus-terms-and-conditions)

As previously stated, players must read and agree to the T&Cs before creating an account; therefore, I think that no one should get the impression that this is a trap.

Best regards,

Anton

Dear Anton and Vegaz Casino,

I'm afraid we can't accept your decision. We, in casino.guru, believe that if you grant a player a bonus, you should also honor the payout of their winnings. This basically means, don't grant bonuses to players that aren't eligible for them. If you can't implement this type of enforcement in your system, there should at least be a warning and such an important bonus condition should definitely be right in the specific bonus conditions and not hidden in the general bonus terms. If you look at the banner, there's more than enough space for this crucial information. The way it is now, it looks like a trap for players, especially when it's a deposit bonus.

We would like to ask the Casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.

Hi mete121212,

Unfortunately, it seems that the casino made its decision and stopped responding entirely. I’m afraid, there is not much that can be done without cooperation from its side. I will mark the complaint "unresolved" in our system. I understand this isn't a satisfactory solution to your issue. However, the decrease in rating caused by unresolved complaints could help to change the casino's approach. If the casino decides to react, we will reopen the complaint and you will be notified by email. In the meantime, I recommend you contact the Curacao Gaming Authority (certria@gaminglicences.com) and submit a complaint there. Even though there's no guarantee it will help you, it is worth a try. Let me know how they responded (peter.m@casino.guru). I wish I could be of more help.

Best regards,

Peter