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提出日:
2022年8月17日
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終了したクレーム : 2023年9月14日
終了したクレーム
Casino Guruの決定
規制当局:カジノ側が妥当
却下されました
クレームの概要
1年前
翻訳
The player's account got blocked for having multiple accounts. The player claims that there are a few friends who play in the casino separately, but they live near each other. The casino is convinced that all related accounts were used by 1 person. However, the casino was not able to completely answer our questions and provide us with all the requested details. In the meantime, the player filed a complaint with the regulator. The complaint has been (temporarily) closed until the regulator's final decision is made. After a reasonable time, the complaint was reopened, and the player was asked to provide us with the ADR's final decision. The complaint was rejected because ADR decided in favor of the casino.
私は 1 年以上 mr bet でプレイしており、完全に確認済みであり、mr bet での最初の引き出しではありません
私はカジノの決定をまったく理解できず、何の罪悪感も持っていないので、私は Mr Bet で 1 つのアカウントしか持っていないため、このケースを開くことにしました。
I was blocked at mr bet today with the reason that I have 2 accounts, which unfortunately is not true.
i have a neighbor who also has an account with mr bet
we are good friends and we talk regularly about what everyone is playing and which casinos are good.
however, everyone has their own household (apartment) and everyone has their own internet and everyone only has one account at mr bet
and everyone plays for themselves
He informed me that his account was also blocked.
Apparently both of our accounts were blocked at the same time.
we both live in a house with 20 residential units and everyone has their own apartment and household and everyone has their own internet and we didn't violate anything in that respect.
i have been playing at mr bet for more than 1 year and i am fully verified and it is not my first withdrawal at mr bet
Since I can't understand the decision of the casino in any way and I'm not aware of any guilt, I decided to open this case because I only have 1 account at Mr Bet.
ich wurde bei mr bet heute gesperrt mit der begründung das ich 2 accounts habe was leider nicht der wahrtheit entspricht.
ich habe einen nachbarn der auch einen account bei mr bet besitzt
wir sind gut befreundet und unterhalten uns regelmässig darüber was jeder spielt und welche casinos gut sind.
allerdings hat jeder seinen eigenen haushalt (wohnung) und jeder hat sein eigenes internet und jeder hat nur einen account bei mr bet
und jeder spielt für sich alleine
er teilte mir mit das auch sein account gesperrt wurde.
offenbar wurden unsere beiden accounts zeitgleich gesperrt.
wir wohnen beide in einen haus mit 20 wohneinheiten und jeder hat seine eigene wohnung und seinen eigenen haushalt und jeder hat sein eigenes internet und wir haben insofern gegen nix verstossen.
ich spiele schon mehr als 1 jahr bei mr bet und bin vollständig verifiziert und es ist nicht meine erste auszahlung bei mr bet
da ich die entscheidung des casinos in keinster weise nachvollziehen kann und mir keiner schuld bewusst bin habe ich mich dazu entschlossen diesen fall zu eröffnen da ich nur 1 account bei mr bet besitze.
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint and I'm really sorry to hear about your issue with Mr Bet Casino. Please allow me to ask you a few more question before we would move forward.
Could you please advise if your account is already verified and is yes, since when exactly? How long have you been playing in the casino? Did you ever claim any bonuses?
As long as both of you can verify your identity at the casino, they should reopen your account and allow you to play.
I am sorry to hear about your situation. I will contact the casino and try my best to resolve the issue as soon as possible. Now I would like to invite Mr Bet Casino's representative to join this conversation and participate in the resolution of this complaint.
Dear Mr Bet Casino Team,
Could you please provide us with an explanation of the player's situation in more detail from your point of view? What next steps should the player take to get his account unblocked? If we are talking about a breach of the casino's Terms and Conditions, is the casino able to substantiate its decision with relevant evidence?
It is possible to share the data directly here, with your reply, or by sending them to my email address (branislav.b@casino.guru).
Thank you in advance for providing the information.
Thank you for your email and all provided data. However, the data provided to me is missing some information and details. Please, see my last email sent a while ago. I will wait for a response and details.
We received your letter and sent clarifications to it and letters from your colleagues with further information about the violation and our position regarding this case of violation.
Based on an internal discussion, it was decided that we need additional data to assess the situation and circumstances. Please see my last 2 emails. It would be great if you could provide me with the required data and information to move the case forward.
Unfortunately, we do not have a final decision on this group of users at this stage.
We ask the Casino gurus to extend the time limit for the complaint, which will help us to carry out additional investigation and formulate a final decision regarding the accounts.
Please take a look at our latest email we sent you. In this letter, we also offer on what conditions users who have violated terms and conditions can continue to use the services of our casino.
Thank you for your email and the provided information.
Which way was the casino's decision reconsidered, please? Will the casino let the player’s balance/winnings untouched and available for play or withdrawal?
Based on all gathered and available information, it looks like the players played in the casino separately, and the collected winnings were won legitimately. Even if they played in the casino together, they would not be able to influence the outcome and cause the casino a loss, since they only played slots and used slot bonuses.
The complaint and the provided data will be the subject of a casino.guru Complaints Team's internal discussion. I will inform you directly here about the results.
The results of an internal discussion should be known on the 26th of October.
since I can no longer log in to mrbet, I do not know them and cannot find them out
mrbet's live chat only works if you're logged in
I can't open the live chat at the moment
what happens if the complaint is not processed by curacao egaming and i don't get an answer?
It's a very passive regulatory body that doesn't handle player complaints reliably and there's a good chance I won't get a response
how does this affect the complaint to casino guru?
it would then have to be classified as unresolved or am I seeing it wrong
um eine beschwerde einreichen zu können benötige ich die player id number
da ich mich nicht mehr einloggen kann bei mrbet weiss ich diese nicht und kann sie nicht herausfinden
der live chat von mrbet funktioniert nur wenn man eingeloggt ist
ich kann den live chat aktuell nicht öffnen
was passiert im falle das die beschwerde bei curacao egaming nicht bearbeitet wird und ich keine antwort erhalte?
es ist eine sehr passive regulationsbehörde die nicht zuverlässig spielerbeschwerden bearbeitet und es ist sehr wahrscheinlich das ich keine antwort erhalte
welchen einfluss hat das dann auf die beschwerde bei casino guru?
sie müsste ja dann als ungelöst eingestuft werden oder sehe ich das falsch
The authority usually responds to players' complaints, however, it could take a long until you receive a relevant reply.
Once you submit a complaint with the Curaçao gaming authority, the complaint will be (temporarily) closed as unresolved. Then, in a reasonable time, we will contact you regarding the results of the complaint.
If the authority does not contact you at all, the complaint will be updated accordingly.
However, please note that if the gaming authority provides you with the results of its investigation and the final decision regarding your issue, it does not automatically mean this complaint will be reclassified according to the regulator's decision. Casino.guru will review the decision and details. As you mentioned, we are talking about a passive regulator and we are aware of it.
Dear Mr Bet Casino Team,
Could you please provide the player with his account ID number? Or can I provide it to him?
If we are talking about separate players playing with the connected accounts, as you claimed, how is it possible that 3 of 4 players submitted complaints on casino.guru at the same time, while all of them write us the same (or at least similar) things? Even the same type of screenshot was attached to the first post in 2 of these complaints.
I am handling 2 of these 3 complaints, but I know that also the third thread contains the same type of replies, especially the last ones.
the complaints were filed at the same time because the user accounts at mr bet were all blocked at the same time and while a pending payout was active.
I know the other affected accounts, they are my colleagues, but everyone plays for themselves.
we then sat down and discussed how best to proceed and came to the decision that everyone should file a complaint with casino guru because mrbet's accusation
wrong that more than 1 account was created.
we only helped each other to create and write the complaint
which is not forbidden
I hope you can understand it better now
everyone plays for himself and alone and does not have duplicate accounts.
die beschwerden wurden gleichzeitig eingereicht weil auch die benutzerkonten bei mr bet alle gleichzeitig gesperrt wurden und das während eine ausstehende auszahlung aktiv war.
ich kenne die anderen betroffenen accounts es sind meine kollegen aber jeder spielt für sich alleine.
wir haben uns dann zusammengesetzt und beratschlagt wie wir nun am besten vorgehen und sind zum entschluss gekommen das jeder eine beschwerde bei casino guru einreicht da die vorwürde von mrbet
nicht stimmen das mehr als 1 account erstellt wurde.
wir haben uns lediglich gegenseitig beim erstellen und verfassen der beschwerde gegenseitig geholfen
was ja nicht verboten ist
ich hoffe sie können es nun besser nachvollziehen
jeder spielt für sich und alleine und besitzt keine doppelten accounts.
As we are not able to sufficiently review the complaint based on the data provided by the casino, and you filed a complaint with the regulator, we are (temporarily) closing this complaint as unresolved for now.
Please, once you have a response from the regulator, let us know about the results and its decision. We will then be able to reconsider the complaint on our side.
It is possible to let us know by reopening this complaint or by sending information/documents to my email address (branislav.b@casino.guru). In case we are not provided with the final decision by any party involved in a reasonable time, the complaint will be reopened by casino.guru.
I sincerely believe your issue will be carefully reviewed and resolved.
Thank you very much for your understanding and patience.
We hope this message finds you well. We wanted to follow up on your case, which was marked as "Waiting for Regulator" on our website some time ago. We were wondering if there have been any updates or resolutions since our last conversation.
If your case has been resolved by the Licensing Authority, we kindly request you to forward us their official statement at branislav.b@casino.guru. On the other hand, if the ruling was in favor of the casino, it would still be incredibly helpful for us to know. We understand that it has been a while, but updating your complaint will allow us to either issue black points to the casino (if the ruling was in your favor) or warn other players and users about cases where the Authority supports the operator.
We truly appreciate your cooperation, and your response would be of great assistance to us.