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2023年12月12日
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終了したクレーム : 2024年1月10日
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The player from Italy had deposited €35 after losing a bonus, but noticed that his credit was still reflecting a fun bonus. Upon contacting chat support and reporting the anomaly, his winnings had been nullified. The casino confirmed that the player had made several deposits and received no winnings. The player claimed that he had been threatened and blackmailed by the casino, which the casino denied and said they had added more funds to his account to resolve the issue. The player insisted that his winnings had been unjustly nullified. The casino argued that the player had been trying to obtain funds unfairly. The player had requested the publication of the entire support chat for transparency. After reviewing the game history and communication between the player and the casino, we confirmed that the player's real money deposit had indeed been credited as bonus winnings. However, the player's account had been closed with no remaining balance, and thus, no further action was taken.
The casino acknowledged a bonus of €35, which I played and lost (I exhausted the funds at 2023-12-12 11:13:58, Excel row 496)
Subsequently, I made a deposit of €35 at the time Date: 2023-12-12 11:15:41, Excel row 497
but I noticed that my credit was still in fun bonus, I contacted the chat support and reported the anomaly, meanwhile I had accumulated winnings.
The chat support withdrew my funds, nullifying my winnings.
I am attaching an Excel file where you can review the transactions
il casino mi ha riconosciuto un bonus di 35€ , giocati e persi ( ho terminato i fondi alle 12.12.2023 11:13:58 riga di excell 496 )
Successivamente ho effettuato un deposito di 35€ alle ore Date: 2023-12-12 11:15:41 riga excell 497
ma ho notato che il mio credito credito era in fun bonus, ho contattato l'assistenza chat e ho fatto presente dell'anomalia , nel frattempo avevo accumulato una vincita.
l'assistenza chat ha prelevato i miei fondi azzerando la mia vincita .
allego file excell dove si possono visionare i movimenti
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely. Do I understand correctly that the confiscated winnings were accumulated with your real money deposit?
Could you please forward all the relevant communication between you and the casino to kristina.s@casino.guru? Alternatively, you can post it here.
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
After the deposit of 30 euros (the real balance ends)
The player in the chat asked us for a free bonus - we activated a bonus of 35 euros on the balance. The player has used up the 35 euros of the free bonus and has deposited the last 35 euros
The player has finished the 35 euros of the real balance and has won around 80 euros with the bonus balance
The player contacted us via chat telling us that the real balance had disappeared (he had used it up while playing)
The customer continued to complain and the agent ADDED ANOTHER 35 EUROS TO THE REAL BALANCE
According to the chat, the player asked to eliminate the bonus
We have canceled the bonus
THE PLAYER NOW CLAIMS THAT WE HAVE REDUCED THE 80
This is not true!!! We have sent the file to the player so that he can see and control all the games.
The player continued to BLACKMAIL AND THREATEN (SEE SCREENSHOOT ITALIAN LANGUAGE)
In order not to waste time (OUR LOSS) we added 80 euros to the player's real balance. THE PLAYER CONTINUED TO THREAT AND BLACKMAIL - SEE PHOTOS IN ITALIAN
THE PLAYER HAS REQUESTED TO CLOSE THE ACCOUNT AND WE HAVE CLOSED THE ACCOUNT
IF YOU CAN GIVE ME AN EMAIL I CAN SEND YOU all the bets, the player's deposits and the DEPOSITS MADE MANUALLY AS A FREE GIFT FROM US
IN total we gave the player as a gift 35 real balance + 35 bonus balance + 80 real balance (the latter not used because his account was closed at his request, see photo)
AFTER HAVING LOST HIS DEPOSITS, THE PLAYER TRIED WITH THREATS AND BLACKMAIL TO GET MONEY.
The bonus was given to us!! 35 euro bonus given away. The customer was left with 2 euros and 40 in the bonus balance and loaded 35 in the real balance with the card. He finished the 35 and won 80 with the two euros left...
顧客は ON THE REAL BALANCE 115 を受け取りましたが、脅迫や恐喝によって利用したいと考え続けました。
It is understandable that under threat and blackmail from the player + called Brenda (assistant) a thief that customer support reacted against the player who was trying to obtain funds unfairly and for free
The assistant CANNOT deduct funds from the actual balance. The assistant can only add funds (real balance and bonus balance) and can add bonuses.
The client added EURO 35 FOR FREE UNDER BLACKMAIL + TOTAL 80 IN THE REAL BALANCE + 35 IN THE bonus balance.
The customer received ON THE REAL BALANCE 115 but continued to want to take advantage by threatening and blackmailing.
"he demanded further money with threats and blackmail"
I think these gentlemen have a bit of mental confusion. This can also be seen from the answers given. Too bad for them that I saved the transcripts of the support chat and they are available.
the €80 they wanted to recognize was the bonus balance
I attach part of the chat transcript
after they withdrew my winnings and contested this lady Brenda reports "and I have mercifully credited you with 35 of the deposit"
only after 3 hours did they write an email, certainly after they checked the excel file, that the 80 was recognized, but I no longer trust these people and I didn't accept
For me the €80 doesn't make any difference but be careful Casino Guru this casino, I'm writing to you from experience it will be very problematic with the players, review the rating
Just check the excel file of the games to verify everything
"pretendeva ulteriori soldi con minacce e ricatti"
secondo me hanno un po di confusione mentale questi signori. Lo si nota anche dalle risposte date. Peccato per loro che ho salvato le trascrizioni della chat di supporto e sono a disposizione.
le 80€ che volevano riconoscere era saldo bonus
allego una parte della trascrizione della chat
dopo che hanno prelevato le mie vincite e contestato questa signora Brenda riporta " e ti ho per pieta accreditato 35 del deposito"
solo dopo 3 ore hanno scritto una mail , sicuramente dopo che hanno controllato il file excell, che le 80 mi venivano riconosciute , ma io non ho più fiducia in queste persone e non ho accettato
A me le 80 € non fanno nessuna differenza ma attenzione Casino Guru questo casinò, te lo scrivo per esperienza sarà molto problematico con i giocatori, rivedi la valutazione
Basta controllare il file excell delle giocate per verificare il tutto
As per the chat, the gentleman declared that the 35 euros of the deposit had disappeared and had been accumulated in the nìbous balance (80 euros). This is impossible.
To get ahead of the curve and avoid having problems, WE CANCELED THE BONUS AND CREDIT 35 EUROS AGAIN TO THE REAL BALANCE (WHAT HE HAD PAID AND CONSUMED)
The player continued to THREATEN AND BLACKMAIL and in order not to have any breakdowns we credited 50 + 30 in the REAL balance
Still not happy, the player continued to threaten and at this point we closed the account at his previous request (see email).
No no after three hours. See the times in the photos sent previously. Everything was done accordingly
The time zone is different from that of Italy
To recap
we credited 35 bonuses + 35 real balance + 30 + 50 real balance for free (this sequence was done in an hour of discussion)
See photo with email time above and photo above of accreditations and real balance 80 time zone different from Italy.
Under threat and blackmail that we would receive dozens of negative reviews etc etc
But you publish screen shots without a logical sense, just for the time, in my opinion you should change jobs because you make the company look bad and go back to being a locksmith (I'm writing this because I received confirmation of the closure of my account from an email used by a blacksmith)
I attach you screen
Why don't you post the entire support chat from the 1st message sent? so casino guru will be able to understand why I published the negative reviews.
the 80 euros recognized after 3 hours, I received emails at 2.49pm and the withdrawal from my account took place at 12.30pm, but you are totally unreliable and I have no intention of playing on your platform, so I am requesting them as payment as they are my credit
attention casino guru this casino is rated too high
and the positive reviews received in these hours on their page are clearly fake (all with name and surname) this already proves that there is something strange in their work
Ma pubblicate degli screen senza un senso logico , solo per l'orario, secondo me dovresti cambiare lavoro perchè fai fare una brutta figura alla società e ritornare a fare il fabbro (scrivo questo perchè ho ricevuto la conferma della chiusura del mio account da una mail utilizzata da un fabbro)
ti allego screen
Perchè non pubblicate per intero la chat di supporto dal 1° messaggio inviato? così casino guru potrà capire perchè ho pubblicato le recensioni negative .
le 80 euro riconosciute dopo 3 ore , ho ricevuto mail alle 14.49 e il prelievo dal mio conto è avvenuto 12.30, ma siete totalmente inaffidabili e non ho intenzione di giocare sulla vostra piattaforma, quindi le richiedo come pagamento essendo mio credito
attenzione casino guru è assegnata una valutazione troppo alta a questo casino'
e le rencensioni positive ricevute in queste ore, sulla loro pagina sono palesemente fake ( tutte con nome e cognome ) già questo sta a sginificare che c'è qualcosa di strano nel loro operato
added funds manually to bonus balance 20+15 total 35 see photo
The customer is left with 2.60 euros, the customer pays 35 euros
see photo
the customer plays and loses the real balance but accumulates around 79 euros with the bonus balance (see photo) The customer gets angry and says that the 35 euros deposited have disappeared into thin air. Threats and blackmail add 35 euros to the real balance (see photo).
THE CUSTOMER SENDS AN EMAIL REQUESTING ACCOUNT CLOSURE
PUBLISH THE SUPPORT CHAT FROM THE FIRST MESSAGE IF YOU ARE A SERIOUS CASINO AND SO YOU UNDERSTAND THE REASON FOR THE REVIEWS, WHICH BESIDES ARE NOT FAKE LIKE THOSE SENT ON THE PAGE IN THE LAST HOURS
But given the managers of this casino, I respond with locksmith assistance emails.
you make me laugh
unfortunately you don't know how to read an excel file, which is very clear but rightly so, as a locksmith and manager of a casino, I find it difficult for you to understand
STOP MAKING YOU LOOK LIKE POOR GUYS WE ARE WAITING FOR CASINO GURU TO READ THE EXCELL FILE AND SO WE ARE WAITING FOR FEEDBACK FROM SPECIALIZED STAFF AND NOT FROM A LOCKSMITH
PUBBLICA LA CHAT DI SUPPORTO DAL PRIMO MESSAGGIO SE SIETE UN CASINO' SERIO E COSI SI CAPISCE IL MOTIVO DELLE RECENSIONI , CHE OLTRETUTTO NON SONO FALSE COME QUELLE INVIATE NELLA PAGINA NELLE ULTIME ORE
Ma visti i manager di questo casino , che rispondo con mail di assitenza fabbri.
mi fate ridere
purtroppo tu non sai leggere un file excell, che è molto chiaro ma giustamente da fabbro a manager di un casino la vedo difficile per te la comprensione
BASTA FARVI FARE FIGURE DA POVERACCI ATTENDIAMO LA LETTURA DEL FILE EXCELL DA PARTE DI CASINO GURU E COSI ATTENDIAMO UN RISCONTRO DA PERSONALE SPECIALIZZATO E NON DA UN FABBRO
I totally agree with you! Now let's leave it to GURU to decide. We thought we had sent everything necessary for you to decide.
Frankly, we don't understand what this blacksmith has to do with all this or what you're referring to. The excel file was sent to you by us so that you could see the plays and movements.
Furthermore, if you think screenshots are missing, you can always add them yourself.
I have all the chats, except the first chat support request..... so if you would like to kindly publish the first chat support request, so we all understand my reaction well
io ho tutte le chat, tranne la prima rihiesta di supporto chat..... quindi se vuoi pubblicare gentilmente la prima richiesta di supporto chat , cosi capiamo bene tutti la mia reazione
Ramirexxx, does the google drive document contain your full game history? Additionally, please forward all the relevant communication between you and the casino as well as any other supporting documents or evidence to my email address (kristina.s@casino.guru).
Thank you both for your emails. I would like to kindly ask you for your patience and understanding while I review and compare all the provided information and evidence. It can take a few days due to the increased volume of complaints during this time of year. We are currently managing over 900 active complaints but will try my best to get back to this case as soon as possible.
私がゲーム履歴をレビューするのを待ってくれてありがとう。 Scooby Bet Casino によって手動で入金されたお金に関するすべてが真実であることが分かりましたが、Ramirexxx も正しかったようで、前のボーナスが全額賭けられていたにもかかわらず、彼のリアルマネー入金からの賞金はボーナス残高/賞金として記録されているようです。この 35 ユーロのデポジット前のボーナス残高は 0 でした。
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どうしてこれが起こったのか説明してもらえますか?
Thank you everyone for your patience while waiting for me to review the game history. Although I see that everything regarding the manually deposited money by the Scooby Bet Casino is true, it seems that Ramirexxx was also right and winnings from his real money deposit appear to be recorded as bonus balance/winnings, even though the previous bonus was fully wagered and the bonus balance before this €35 deposit was 0:
Good morning, when I made the deposit my balance was 0 and there were no bonus balances. This can be seen from the game history. The main problem, in addition to withdrawing my balance, was the rudeness of the chat support, as you can read in the chat sent, I was offended as a liar without even checking my game history... which is why I no longer trust this platform
Buongiorno, quando ho effettuato il deposito il mio saldo era a 0 e non erano presenti saldi bonus. Lo si può notare dalla cronologia di gioco. Il problema principale oltre al prelevare il mio saldo, è stata la maleducazione dell assistenza chat,come si può leggere nella chat inviata, sono stato offeso come bugiardo senza nemmeno controllare la cronologia di gioco... motivo per cui io non ho più fiducia in questa piattaforma
com に与えられたボーナス残高の 2 ユーロで彼は約 80 ユーロを勝ち取り、その瞬間、プレーヤーは以前に消費した 35 ユーロが空中に消えたと述べました。
Of course the player's real balance was at zero.
The player asked for a gift bonus.
We gave away 35 euro bonus balance
the player has exhausted our bonus gift (he had a bonus balance of approximately 2 euros).
He has 35 deposits and exhausted 35.
com the two euros of the bonus balance given away he won around 80 and at that moment the player stated that the 35 previously consumed had disappeared into thin air.
This is not the case, my balance was at 0 and you can also read it in the file. As you can see, the winnings are made with the real balance. I declared that you withdrew my winnings without any authorization, I did not declare that the 35 euros had disappeared into thin air. We kindly do not write falsehoods
Non è così il mio saldo era a 0 e lo si può leggere anche nel file . Come si nota la vincita è effettuata con il saldo reale. Io ho dichiarato che avete prelevato le mie vincite senza nessuna autorizzazione, non ho dichiarato che le 35 euro erano scomparse nel nulla. Gentilmente non scriviamo falsità
In my opinion you have some serious problems of understanding, but I think it is normal, managers who until yesterday were craftsmen 24 hours a day, today I answer chats and do not have the ability to read an excel file (casino gurus as per previous screenshots send emails with accounts used for other craft services in Italy, a shocking situation) I also sent the chat transcripts to casino guru. You are as fake as your casino.
Secondo me avete qualche grave problema di comprensione , ma credo che sia normale ,manager che fino a ieri erano artigiani h24 ,oggi rispondo a chat e non hanno la capacità di leggere un file excell ( casino guru come da screenshot precedenti inviano email con account utilizzati per altri servizi di artigianato in italia, situazione allucinante) a casino guru ho inviato anche le trascrizioni chat. Siete falsi come il vostro casinò.
We have opened a trustpilot ticket to have multiple reviews removed. (see photo). They removed the reviews that can be traced back to you.
it is possible that it costs us more than the 35 euros... or what you are requesting (frankly we have not yet understood what you want) but it is our right to inform the Italian postal police of what has happened through one of our lawyers.
I confirm that I had no active balance, I had reset my account to zero.
Specifically, after the winnings were reset and after reporting the problem to chat support, they recognized a bonus balance, not a real balance, as a refund of my deposit. I reset the bonus and ask for closure
ti confermo che non avevo saldo attivo , avevo azzerato il mio account.
Specifico , dopo l'azzeramento della vincita e dopo aver fatto presente al supporto chat del problema, ha riconosciuto un saldo bonus, non saldo reale , a titolo di restituzione del mio deposito. ho azzerato il bonus e chesto la chiusura
I advise you to look at the excel file, the sequences and the games..
You won around 80 euros with the remaining 2 euros of the BONUS balance GIVEN BY US - then you started to get heated and go crazy with blackmail aimed at extorting money..
Connect the photos of the chats with the time to the game timer and you will see that you will refresh your ideas
Actually, Ramirexxx is right and winnings from his real money deposit seem to be credited to a bonus balance for whatever reason. First, he was credited two bonuses - €20 and €15 (excel rows 3269 and 3270) and these bonus funds were played. Then Ramirexxx deposited real money €35 (excel row 3394, ID 318570606) which was credited after previous bonus funds were exhausted and the bonus balance was €0 (row 3393). Any winnings from this deposit were recorded as bonus winnings.
And Scooby Bet Casino is also right and the manual deposit of €35 was indeed credited (row 3522) which was fully played and later two more - €30 and €50 (rows 3533 and 3534).
So in conclusion, both of you are right and it seems that you don't understand each other's points.
Since Ramirexxx's account has been closed with no remaining balance, unfortunately, I don't see anything that we could help with here or mediate. Therefore, I will now close this complaint without further intervention or investigation. Thank you both for your cooperation and understanding and I am sorry we could not be of more help on this occasion.
Ramirexxx, please do not hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with this or any other casino in the future.